I get banned from leftwing websites constantly. Most recently David Brin deleted comments asking either for the $100 he bet me I could not respond to him, or ANY form of substantive response. I’m used to the use of force to suppress ideological others. It is the only option they have, and since their creed is based on hate and irrationality, they see nothing morally or intellectually objectionable in it.
Here is my honest belief: having spent more time than 99.99% even of those who are interested in politics testing my views against opposition, I have more defensible views than virtually anyone I COULD meet on the internet, or elsewhere. It is like building a castle, then asking someone to attack it. You take that feedback, then do it again, and again, and again, and again, and again, for up to four hours a day for years. The result at the end is defensible.
I mentioned David Brin. He is wonderful and brilliant (just ask him or one of his fawning acolytes). Best selling author, futurist, savant, bon vivant, and the inspiration for the Dos Equis commercials.
What is about to follow will be a bit lengthy, but I will summarize it here: the best and the brightest on the left have been reduced to repetition of tired talking points, and the on-going invention of lies which WOULD be true if their version of reality had any validity, but which DON’T because their worldview rests upon misunderstandings compounded by long habit.
Here is a repeat of the crux of a longer Peter Bauer quote:
In academic study unwarranted claims are apt to inhibit the
advance of understanding. Attempts to justify unfounded claims, or to
mask the failure to live up to them, encourage the proponents of such
claims to shift their ground. For example, when certain policies widely
canvassed by development economists as necessary for raising living
standards, such as large-scale public investment, domestic production of
capital goods, or the collectivization of agriculture, fail to bring
about the expected results, the policies themselves come to be regarded
as the very stuff of progress rather than as what they are, unsuccessful
instruments for its promotion.
The policies themselves become the object of veneration, even idolatry. I would further submit that one of these ideals, one of these idols with feet of clay, is the very notion that the Left CARES about the poor. They don’t. “By their fruits ye shall know them”. Their fruits are “fleurs du mal”.
As I now realized, even sybaritic leftists are prone to the necessity of groupthink that defines Cultural Sadeism. They are pre-zombies, who have rejected in principle the Enlightenment pursuit of rational discourse, and the idea that all minds are equal, if they pursue reason dispassionately.
But they have not rejected the IDEA that they are rational. On the contrary–Dr. Brin. Let me quote you this eminence grise:
we may have a chance to
create a fantastic new civilization on this planet, by returning to and
enhancing the Enlightenment methods that brought us to this party.
Methods like transparency and reciprocal accountability and divided power and pragmatic negotiation that
have nothing whatsoever to do with “left” or “right” but that are
deeply threatened by one side in our current culture war.[note that he says they have nothing to do with “left” or “right”, except that the “right” is by definition wrong. Irony is apparently above his intellectual capacity, a common enough affliction among such savages.]
Again: one wing of
American political life — the same one that was wrong in all the
previous stages of civil war — has veered away from the logical,
courteous, cautious, pragmatic and intellectually cogent conservatism of
giants like Goldwater and Buckley, into fevered fact-aversion
unparalleled in the U.S. since the pre-1861 Know Nothing party. I’d love to see a mature conservative or Libertarian movement present at the negotiating table, standing up sensibly for the role of competition in a mixed and agile civilization.
These are nice ideals, are they not? But does he practice them? Of course not. Here is one response from him, his last one which even attempted lucidity:
Mountain Goat, you are just as crazy on the right as Akra is on the
left. You declaim counter-facts with blithe assuredness that is simply
astonishing. But it is flat out nonsense.
Tax rates are at near
their lowest levels in 70 years. That is a flat-out fact. It is a fact
fact fact and no armwaving you do can even remotely make actual real
facts go away.
Supply siders have said repeatedly that lowering
taxes on the wealthy would result in investment in plants and equipment
and productivity that would result in increased tax revenues and thus
lower public debt. NOT ONE OF THESE THINGS EVER EVER EVER EVEN REMOTELY
CAME CLOSE TO HAPPENING. The rich, especially, do not invest tax
largesse in plants and equipment and productive assets. They… do….
not.
You appeal to nonexistent facts. You appeal to authority.
You make grand declarations about your superiority as a debater… all
of which are cheap tricks of high school freshmen and I tell you now,
you are a very bad debater.
I CHALLENGE YOU AGAIN with money
behind it. If you cannot come up with one counter-example to my broad
accusations, then you leave those accusations on the table as the
assumed leading hypotheses.
I have defined terms perfectly well.
I have asked you to name ONE clade of intellect not under attack by
Fox. ONE unambiguous metric of national health that improved under
Republican rule. Name one. Name it now.
Start with Clinton’s
surpluses and debt payback. Now subtract the iraq and Afghanistan wars
and Bush’s tax cuts. That leads directly to precisely the debt you are
now screaming about. Show us how the math comes out any different in
your world. Show us.
Show us now. I offer you $100 to show us. Do the math. (I can. I have. You’d lose.
This is 100% a GOP deficit.)
I responded substantively. You can read the full thread here. Even now, if anyone reading this who wants to challenge anything I said, have at it, here. I take all comers and always will. My claim to want to learn, to be rational, is quite sincere, as I show over and over and over.
I won’t summarize all my responses (I will note in passing that I am using I a lot. Since I am talking about me, it is hard not to), and post his contribution to show in his own words his attitude and overall tone, which are not at all consistent with civil discourse, or respect for Enlightenment ideals, or even the concept of FACT. I offered him sundry facts, and he didn’t respond AT ALL.
I will note, first, that I asked him at least 4 times to define “Progress”, since he self defines as a “practical/pragmatic progressive”. He refused repeatedly, then falsely claimed he had done it. I came up with what I felt and feel was a good set of definitions–one per cultural activity–which I posted in the last week or two under “Progress”, I think.
The details are boring. They amount, among other things, to pointing out that Fox, per se, includes dissenters like Alan Colmes, and that calling every news story on every day an assault on the intellect is ITSELF an assault on the intellect. All you have to do with leftists is wait for them to accuse you of something, and you will know what moral or cognitive norm they are violating.
Budget: no President before Obama has spent $3 trillion. What else do you need to know to falsify the farcical claim that Bush even now is the cause of our deficits?
Etc. The details are there, and include an 11 page refutation of Keystone Cops Economics, aka Demand Side, aka Keynesian, aka Anti-Rationalist economics, which I also linked on a post in the last week or two. Net tax revenues went up under Bush AFTER the tax cuts, which the Demand-Siders claim, counter-factually, is impossible. We know what income tax receipts are. There is no need for theoretical speculation.
Again, the story here is not another failure of a high-IQ, highly educated leftist to fail to defend their ideas. It is common. I just want to emphasize that what you see here represents ALL THEY HAVE. There is NO argument that they make which withstands scrutiny.
When you look at modern China or the Soviet Union, or Cuba, what you see is the physical expression of intellectual psychopathology. The question is not whether or not leftist ideas work or not: they plainly do not. The question is why sane people continue to advocate them, and the answer is that either they are not sane–the core meme generators–or they are complacent, and never actually ask hard questions about the doctrines they are taught from an early age.
Oh: the task of the rational is a hard one. You have to face down frothing hatred with equanimity–which often fails me, as in the Brin “debate”–and do far more research and thought. On the left, they are handed talking points at school, and merely need to repeat them.
Finally, I will note that the right also has talking points. The LARGE difference is that the talking points of the right survive under a microscope, and leftist ideas cannot. They die in the light.
That’s enough for now.
My whole website deals with these issues: http://www.goodnessmovement.co…
Particularly in this piece, I derived the necessity of the rejection
of principled moral values, and the overriding necessity of conformity
as a sole criterion of truth: http://www.goodnessmovement.co…
For my own purposes, I recognize two types of leftist: what I term a
Sybaritic Leftist, and what I term a Cultural Sadeist. Recently, in
debating the fool David Brin, I realized that cognitively there is
little difference between the two. Both require the rejection of
principles that are not mutable. Given that to belong to their tribe
they must accept its dictates, the abuse of reason is logically
necessary.
Politics is culture. This will be understood fully by few, but I
will suggest that this piece is an excellent and much needed start with
respect to a discussion that is much overdue. The question is not even
whether or not we want to be a Christian culture–which is how the Left
frames this issue, propagandistically–but whether we are going to
continue to value the use of reason and genuine tolerance in our
interactions with one another; or whether group membership will be made
the only thing that matters in a power hungry world.